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Weight gain eating plants?!
Did the tooth sensitivity go away after say… eating dairy again?
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“Weight gain eating plants?!
Did the tooth sensitivity go away after say… eating dairy again?”
I am 61 and have tried every diet and have talked extensively about my experiences with them on the RPF. Being a vegetarian was the fattest I have ever been and pretty quickly too. I never had cellulite on my legs until then. My son was a vegetarian for 4 years and was having kidney pain from all of the oxalates in the beans, grains, salads and such. He hated to give up his cause, but eventually went back to a meat and dairy diet and regained all of his muscles without working out whatsoever. He has huge calves again now. My teeth still get sensitive with oats if I don’t have a lot of calcium rich foods, but otherwise I took my weight off fast giving up the grains and beans and eating meat, dairy and red potatoes instead, and my teeth remineralized themselves.
Was this even with calcium rich leafy greens that this tooth pain occured?
@questforhealth “Was this even with calcium rich leafy greens that this tooth pain occured?”
The greens did not cause me tooth problems the beans and grains did. The greens, beans and grains caused my son oxalate/kidney issues.
“Poor people, especially in the spring when other foods were scarce, have sometimes subsisted on foliage such as collard and poke greens, usually made more palatable by cooking them with flavorings, such as a little bacon grease and lots of salt. Eventually, “famine foods” can be accepted as dietary staples. The fact that cows, sheep, goats and deer can thrive on a diet of foliage shows that leaves contain essential nutrients. Their minerals, vitamins, and amino acids are suitable for sustaining most animal life, if a sufficient quantity is eaten. But when people try to live primarily on foliage, as in famines, they soon suffer from a great variety of diseases. Various leaves contain antimetabolic substances that prevent the assimilation of the nutrients, and only very specifically adapted digestive systems (or technologies) can overcome those toxic effects.” -Ray Peat
I do have a big patch of red potatoes in the garden. I used to get pretty depressed eating a meat and potatoes diet though until I ate some vegetables from the garden and it always instantly lifts my mood? Would that be folate??
maybe i can try this vegetarian stuff and if it ends up bad i go back to eating dairy and meat… but then dairy makes me smell like rotten cheese.. I must be lactose intolerant.. i dont have much choice left really other than seafood and meat
@questforhealth
“I do have a big patch of red potatoes in the garden. I used to get pretty depressed eating a meat and potatoes diet though until I ate some vegetables from the garden and it always instantly lifts my mood? Would that be folate??
maybe i can try this vegetarian stuff and if it ends up bad i go back to eating dairy and meat… but then dairy makes me smell like rotten cheese.. I must be lactose intolerant.. i dont have much choice left really other than seafood and meat”
I don’t eat meat and potatoes together. I don’t eat red meat or chicken much either generally, not for any other reason than I am on an anti-aging protocol and red meat and chicken is not optimal for that. Try your non-starchy buttered red potatoes away from meat with some well cooked broccoli. That is a really good, tasty and “Peaty” meal.
My family does eat buttered potatoes often. But wouldn’t I have a pretty complete diet with beans, fruit, the right vegetables, wholegrains and starches?? There has been times I have felt very good eating all these types of foods.
best I have ever felt or close to it was mash potato with coconut oil.
what if we dont need much protein? not sure.
@questforhealth “I have a pretty complete diet with beans, fruit, the right vegetables, wholegrains and starches?? There has been times I have felt very good eating all these types of foodsques
best I have ever felt or close to it was mash potato with coconut oil.”
I’m not the one to ask. I follow Ray Peat’s advice pretty strictly and beans, starches, grains and vegetables are not things I eat. RP has been exactly right, and my excellent health is proof of that.
“Also wasn’t peat eating vegetables before he died? I think its worth looking at what people did before they died. Its like you suddenly make up your mind about whats right in a sense??
Einstein went vegetarian before his death because ‘he had a guilty conscience’”
I don’t think looking at dietary changes shortly before someone experiences physical body death is a good basis for constructing a normal diet, for two reasons-
1. The dietary change may have triggered or accelerated the degeneration and physical body death that occurred.
2. The vast majority of people tend to experience a slower type of death, where there seems to be a physical decline over several months, or even years. It’s well established that most people experiencing this eat a lot less, and at some point, stop eating altogether. Barbara Karnes, a Hospice RN who worked with many dying patients, thinks it’s because they are running on a different sort of energy, a more spiritual sort of energy, and physical energy and maintenance of the physical body is no longer important.
Basically, the eating habits of someone who only has a few months or so to live should not be any sort of guide for the eating habits of a younger person, who likely has several decades ahead of them.
@questforhealth
”I’m in holiday and I’ve been stuffing myself with beef jerky and fruits and lobsters and oysters and all sorts but now I can’t stop eating??? Growth spurt or something more serious??
i do come from a family of fairly tall ‘big framed’ people and i am small for my age so I don’t know??”
I would be stuffing myself too with those foods. Enjoy yourself and don’t overthink it. If you grow a little taller it will be a nice surprise!
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