Questforhealths plant-based diet thread
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August 21, 2024 at 1:40 am #3133Anonymous
it’s just basic karma slaughtering animals and eating their body part will cause disease. you can only do it so much before it starts catching up. just think from a spiritual perspective and the scientific part will fall into place and you will know where you need to go to find the evidence.
i propose that saturated fat from plants like coconuts does not cause disease but animal product saturated fat should be avoided at all costs
August 21, 2024 at 2:38 pm #3138“it’s just basic karma slaughtering animals and eating their body part will cause disease. you can only do it so much before it starts catching up. just think from a spiritual perspective and the scientific part will fall into place and you will know where you need to go to find the evidence.
i propose that saturated fat from plants like coconuts does not cause disease but animal product saturated fat should be avoided at all costs”
Two problems with this. First, plants are alive, just like animals. So, if disease is basic karma from eating a once living animal, why wouldn’t there be the same sort of basic karma from eating a once living plant? And since we know about conditions like celiac, and peanut and soy allergies (which can range from mild to potentially deadly), it would seem that eating plants could exact the same sort of basic karma you are talking about.
Second, your basic karma is at odds with basic biology. Humans eat meat, and have for at least thousands of years. Many stories of the Bible, dating back at least 3,500 years, talk of eating meat, milk, fish, and honey. Lots of the historical and scientific evidence suggest that humans have been eating meat and animal products for much longer than that, hundreds of thousands to millions of years, or longer. Besides that, we know of many animals that are mostly carnivores, and even animals that we label herbivores, like cows and deer, will eat smaller animals, like frogs and birds, when they get the chance. Even plants can be carnivorous, like the Venus Fly Trap.
Besides, there are plenty of humans that ate meat well into their 90s or 100s, and plenty of example of people who “went vegan” who deteriorated and died in their 40s and 50s.
Every living thing on this planet has to consume other living or once living things to survive in this realm. Since all living things are in the same boat in this regard, so if there is some karma that comes around for eating some other living being, then every living thing will experience that karma at some point. You can’t escape it, if you live on this planet.
August 21, 2024 at 4:00 pm #3139@Zack Vegas “Besides that, we know of many animals that are mostly carnivores, and even animals that we label herbivores, like cows and deer, will eat smaller animals, like frogs and birds, when they get the chance. Even plants can be carnivorous, like the Venus Fly Trap.”
To your point above here is a deer eating a snake…
“We tend to underestimate plants because their responses are usually less visible to us. But leaves turn out to be extremely sensitive vibration detectors,” says lead study author Heidi M. Appel, an environmental scientist now at the University of Toledo.
Another hint that plants can hear comes from the phenomenon of “buzz pollination,” in which a bee buzzing at a particular frequency has been shown to stimulate pollen release.
Michael Schöner, a biologist at University of Greifswald in Germany, who was not involved in the new research, believes that plants may have organs that can perceive noises. “Sound vibrations could trigger a response of the plant via mechanoreceptors—these could be very fine, hairy structures, anything that could work like a membrane,” he says.
This research raises questions about whether acoustic pollution affects plants as well as animals, Gagliano observes: “Noise could block information channels between plants, for example, when they need to warn each other of insects.”’
August 21, 2024 at 4:04 pm #3140@Lollipop posted a link to this article this morning in another thread…
“The authors studied a total of 14 fruits most commonly consumed in Singapore and found that the consumption of most fruits, including oranges, tangerines, bananas, papayas, watermelons, apple and honey melon, was associated with reduced likelihood of depression.
The association could possibly be the high levels of antioxidants and anti-inflammatory micronutrients in fruits — such as vitamin C, carotenoids and flavonoids — which have been shown to reduce oxidative stress and inhibit inflammatory processes in the body that may affect the development of depression.
Consumption of vegetables, on the other hand, was found to have no association with the likelihood of depressive symptoms.”
“These findings suggest that promoting fruit consumption for individuals in mid adulthood, typically defined as ages 40 to 65 years, could yield long-term benefits for their mental well-being at late adulthood beyond 65 years. Hence, the study’s results hold significant implications for public health education and initiatives to make fruits more accessible for the general population.“
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/07/240722155127.htm
August 21, 2024 at 4:49 pm #3143Have you ever watched a time lapse video of a plant growing? Their movement and growth become much more obvious, when days are compressed down into 30 seconds or a minute. They almost seem to have animal like movement.
August 21, 2024 at 6:39 pm #3144@Zack Vegas “They almost seem to have animal like movement.”
I love this video! I love when they all first emerge from the soil that they seem to be shaking things off. I have a few outdoor climbing plants and I notice that a couple of them like my passion fruit and especially my snail vine seem to climb with intention. The will reach across a large area knowing where the closest beam is.
August 21, 2024 at 9:27 pm #3148Anonymouswow i cant even post what i wanted to say?
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