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    I thought this below was interesting. I have heard good and bad things about pectin and think much of the bad is from the store bought kind. So I have been making my marmalades without the pectin that comes in a box and instead I have been soaking my orange peels overnight to draw out the fruit’s natural pectin. Considering a Ray Peat inspired diet would have one avoiding the beta-carotene type of vitamin A a natural made marmalade seems to be beneficial to my anti-aging routine, keeping the body from retaining the vitamin A that is in the oranges…

    “Pectin can reduce the body’s ability to absorb beta-carotene, an important nutrient.”

    https://www.webmd.com/vitamins-and-supplements/pectin-uses-and-risks#:~:text=Pectin%20can%20reduce%20the%20body’s,(a%20cholesterol%2Dlowering%20drug)

    #1713
    J.R.K
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      So I have been making my marmalades without the pectin that comes in a box and instead I have been soaking my orange peels overnight to draw out the fruit’s natural pectin. Considering a Ray Peat inspired diet would have one avoiding the beta-carotene type of vitamin A a natural made marmalade seems to be beneficial to my anti-aging routine, keeping the body from retaining the vitamin A that is in the oranges…

      This is an interesting observation @Rinse & rePeat. One of the more controversial topics is that of the toxicity of vitamin A, or hyper vitaminosis A, it is interesting that pectin will block the absorption of vitamin A, but do you need to cook the peels in order to draw out the pectin? Or is the soaking of fresh fruit that is high in vitamin A able to draw out the pectin in great enough quantities to consume say citrus fruits fresh. My understanding in this is that pectin is mainly in the skins of fruit, and cooking is required to draw it out.

      #1728

      I soak my peels overnight  @J.R.K. to draw out the pectin and several days draws out a lot of pectin. Cooking draws out even  more. My fruit waters get almost gelatinous after a couple or more days when I put in the peels of a couple of oranges, so no cooking is not necessary.

      Here is my e-mail to Ray Peat on May 7, 2022, I wrote:

      “I was on a website today that talks highly of you and posted a recipe for homemade marmalade . A step in the instructions said to soak the peels overnight in water, do you think that is necessary step?”

      Ray Peat said:

      “I think it’s very helpful.”

       

      #1764

      “And pectin can also interfere with the body’s ability to absorb certain drugs, including: Digoxin (a heart medicine) Lovastatin (a cholesterol-lowering drug)Sep 6, 2023”

       

      https://www.webmd.com/vitamins-and-supplements/pectin-uses-and-risks#:~:text=Pectin%20can%20reduce%20the%20body’s,(a%20cholesterol%2Dlowering%20drug)

      #1768
      J.R.K
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        By drawing out the pectin with the methodology you employee Rinse & rePeat does it become digestible, or when you make your marmalade does the cooking process make it digestible. Or is there a different process used in the production of MCP that allows this conversion to occur?
        A better question might be. Is the conversion to make the pectin digestible necessary to achieve the desired results?

        #1771

        The soaked raw pectin is digestible. I know this because I drink the pectin via the juice I soak the peels in and I use the zest of the peels in it’s raw form on my ice cream, Greek yogurt and such. I don’t notice anything from having the pectin raw.

        #2306

        “One of the factors promoting excess cortisol production is intestinal irritation, causing absorption of endotoxin and serotonin. Fermentable fibers (including pectins and fructooligosaccharides) support the formation of bacterial toxins, and can cause animals to become anxious and aggressive. Fed to horses, some types of fiber increase the amount of serotonin circulating in the blood. Grains, beans, and other seeds contain fermentable fibers that can promote intestinal irritation.

        The liver has several ways to detoxify endotoxin and serotonin, but these can fail as a result of poor nutrition and hypothyroidism.” -Ray Peat

        #3720
        Lilac
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          I have been eating a lot of raw apples because I love rock-hard new-crop apples in the fall. I think the pectin has not been a problem. Gut is good, and I feel good.

          #3724
          Cari
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            @lilac “I have been eating a lot of raw apples because I love rock-hard new-crop apples in the fall. I think the pectin has not been a problem. Gut is good, and I feel good.”

             

            Apples sounded good to me this week too, maybe because Fall is bringing on the desire for them? I have been drinking fresh pressed apple juice lately too and I am not normally into apples. So I bought a few to bake or make chocolates dipped apples with. 😋

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