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“But we have to think for the future. What if we won’t be allowed to have cows. I think the future will be more plant based.”
First, this is again an off topic concern. The topic of this thread is how I eat more glycine and methionine in the present, and have in the recent past, not trying to engage in prophecy about the future. I don’t know where you live, but I live in a free country. The only reason I wouldn’t be “allowed” to own cows is if I contract that right away. Regardless, I don’t own cows now, nor have I or my family in my lifetime, but I still am able to buy gelatin and beef tendon.
If the rules of commerce change in the future, I may have to start hunting/trapping deer or javalina where I live, and use the skin and tendon of those animals, or find some other solution similar to that. But, I don’t see any type of legislation like that happening anytime in the next decade, and even if it does, will most certainly be challenged by some entity (maybe even me). I’m more focused on creating the best reality I can while I am here, and have gotten less concerned with those sorts of outside forces.
Plus, in the incredibly unlikely circumstances that your prophecy does come to pass, I would have the benefit of getting stronger skin, tendons, veins, and such from going higher glycine and lower methionine for months/years/decades at that point, and might fair better against a sub optimal plant based diet than the rest of the population. So, I see no reason not to continue what I’ve been doing.
Still, if you want to eat more plant based, you can play around with cronometer and look for plant foods that have a better glycine/methionine ratio, if that is what you want to do. Take what you find is useful from my post, and leave the rest.
Side note, this is why I waited until I had nine months of experience with this diet experiment before I shared this idea. I wanted to report on what I had done and am doing, and not start a log going into the future. I’ve seen many of those types of logs on the old RPF, and a very high percentage of them got derailed or never completed.
Some great looking recipes! I’m going to have to try some of them. I’ve been looking for some of the more “savory” gelatin type recipes, so might have to give that broth and egg one a go soon.
- @Zack Vegas I cooked collagen and cottage cheese into this frittata the other day and it was fantastic! I am going to experiment with with other variations like a Mexican one with taco seasoned ground beef, cheddar and salsa and maybe another with some smashed leftover meatballs. The leftovers were even better the next day. I typed out the recipe for this site and linked it for you…
https://raymendeat.com/high-protein-pastrami-swiss-frittata/
“When rats were fed a diet completely lacking tryptophan for a short period, or a diet containing only one fourth of the “normal” amount for a more prolonged period, the results were surprising: They kept the ability to reproduce up to the age of 36 months (versus 17 months for the rats on the usual diet), and both their average longevity and their maximum longevity increased significantly. They looked and acted like younger rats. (A methionine-poor diet also has dramatic longevity-increasing effects.)” -Ray Peat
“I think these facts imply that excessive tryptophan, estrogen, and polyunsaturated fats contribute significantly, maybe decisively, to the degenerative changes that occur in aging. Experiments have separately shown that reducing dietary tryptophan or unsaturated fats can extend the healthy lifespan, and several antiestrogenic interventions (removal of the pituitary, or supplementing with progesterone) can slow age-related changes and delay degenerative diseases.” -Ray Peat
Another thing these techniques could be used for is increasing dopamine production, while lowering serotonin. Obviously, gelatin has no tryptophan (or very tiny amounts), but still has both tyrosine and phenylalanine, both precursors to dopamine. It also has lower levels of the BCAAs.
The BCAAs are interesting, as they are beneficial amino acids in general. Brad Marshall discussed some studies showing that BCAAs are elevated in the blood in obesity, and restricting just the BCAAs can improve obesity, and other metabolic conditions like diabetes.
On the flip side, Haidut posted some studies showing that BCAA supplementation can block tryptophan from entering the brain, and thus lowering serotonin. People had mixed results with this, as some started to get bad moods and depression type symptoms. Probably because BCAAs can also block phenylalanine and tyrosine. All six of those amino acids (BCAAs, phenylalanine, tyrosine, and tryptophan) are Large Neutral Amino Acids. One study proposed administering BCAAs and Tyrosine, to block serotonin synthesis while promoting dopamine.
Although, there is another strategy. You could also lower the BCAAs and tryptophan, while keeping tyrosine and phenylalanine at higher levels. This would also promote dopamine synthesis, while reducing serotonin synthesis. This would probably be a more effective strategy when BCAAs are already elevated in the blood, as appears to be the case in obesity. This would suggest that a gelatin and tyrosine mixture could be very effective at increasing the dopamine to serotonin ratio.
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Wrote: But we have to think for the future. What if we won’t be allowed to have cows. I think the future will be more plant based.My reply: The pastor I watch keeps everyone informed of politics and they mentioned “The Great Reset” with a list of what they plan on controlling. They mention a plant based future.
I wonder if it will be good or bad the great reset
My parents lived under communism and I agree it might not be the best
but if we needed less land because eating plant based diets is more efficient we could have more forests, meadows and so on….?
nature is important and its good to protect it… it does a lot for us
its very possible we would be fine having smaller amounts of meat maybe once a week? i like the idea of grazing cows in nature reserves
in fact I remember one place I used to visit with my dad that would have the cows roam free in a nature reserve and then had deer in cages! what?!
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